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	<title>Comments on: Links for Wednesday</title>
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	<description>MMO design with an emphasis on live service ... and math</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Psychochild</title>
		<link>http://www.lietcam.com/blog/2008/04/16/links-for-wednesday/#comment-138974</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychochild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personal to Kevin: Quit complaining about engineers doing design jobs and go update your blog! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personal to Kevin: Quit complaining about engineers doing design jobs and go update your blog! <img src='http://www.lietcam.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Psychochild</title>
		<link>http://www.lietcam.com/blog/2008/04/16/links-for-wednesday/#comment-138968</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychochild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin wrote:
&lt;i&gt;Seriously, that’s what they want from your senior designer? An engineer? oooo-kay.&lt;/i&gt;

One of the reasons people have given on why they like working with me as a designer is because of my engineering background.  "You actually design things that can be implemented," as one well-known producer told me.  Game designs still have to work on computers, which are what people with engineering-related degrees often understand in depth.

That said, by the time you get to the Senior level for developers, the degree often matters a lot less than previous work experience and references.  And, if Bioware is like most companies, the requirements are more a list of "it would be nice to have..." considerations.  Assuming that HR isn't throwing out contacts from people that don't happen to have one of those degrees, that requirement isn't quite as onerous as one might think.  (Given the EA acquisition, however, one never knows....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin wrote:<br />
<i>Seriously, that’s what they want from your senior designer? An engineer? oooo-kay.</i></p>
<p>One of the reasons people have given on why they like working with me as a designer is because of my engineering background.  &#8220;You actually design things that can be implemented,&#8221; as one well-known producer told me.  Game designs still have to work on computers, which are what people with engineering-related degrees often understand in depth.</p>
<p>That said, by the time you get to the Senior level for developers, the degree often matters a lot less than previous work experience and references.  And, if Bioware is like most companies, the requirements are more a list of &#8220;it would be nice to have&#8230;&#8221; considerations.  Assuming that HR isn&#8217;t throwing out contacts from people that don&#8217;t happen to have one of those degrees, that requirement isn&#8217;t quite as onerous as one might think.  (Given the EA acquisition, however, one never knows&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ludwig</title>
		<link>http://www.lietcam.com/blog/2008/04/16/links-for-wednesday/#comment-136528</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ludwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 06:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The API keys do two things for us:
1) We can track how much each application is accessing the data, what data they're accessing, and from where they're accessing it. 
2) If any application goes crazy and accidently overloads our web servers we can shut it down.

As we move forward into exporting more data about characters we will probably also add some "release my data to this application" stuff where the API key will uniquely identify the application.

Of course for all that to work, app developers have to actually GET keys and the link Matthew posted is actually broken. I'm looking into that now. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The API keys do two things for us:<br />
1) We can track how much each application is accessing the data, what data they&#8217;re accessing, and from where they&#8217;re accessing it.<br />
2) If any application goes crazy and accidently overloads our web servers we can shut it down.</p>
<p>As we move forward into exporting more data about characters we will probably also add some &#8220;release my data to this application&#8221; stuff where the API key will uniquely identify the application.</p>
<p>Of course for all that to work, app developers have to actually GET keys and the link Matthew posted is actually broken. I&#8217;m looking into that now. <img src='http://www.lietcam.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.lietcam.com/blog/2008/04/16/links-for-wednesday/#comment-135505</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, wtf?

"Bachelor Degree in Mathematics, Computer Science or Engineering required"

Seriously, that's what they want from your senior designer?  An engineer?  oooo-kay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, wtf?</p>
<p>&#8220;Bachelor Degree in Mathematics, Computer Science or Engineering required&#8221;</p>
<p>Seriously, that&#8217;s what they want from your senior designer?  An engineer?  oooo-kay.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.lietcam.com/blog/2008/04/16/links-for-wednesday/#comment-135500</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are indeed:

http://potbs.armeagle.nl/map-Rackham.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are indeed:</p>
<p><a href="http://potbs.armeagle.nl/map-Rackham.php" rel="nofollow">http://potbs.armeagle.nl/map-Rackham.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Darius K.</title>
		<link>http://www.lietcam.com/blog/2008/04/16/links-for-wednesday/#comment-135334</link>
		<dc:creator>Darius K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, Sirlin isn't saying that you don't need an education to balance SF2. He's just saying he doesn't specifically use his math knowledge.

On the other hand, his writing was a little bit unclear and could easily be misinterpreted as him saying otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, Sirlin isn&#8217;t saying that you don&#8217;t need an education to balance SF2. He&#8217;s just saying he doesn&#8217;t specifically use his math knowledge.</p>
<p>On the other hand, his writing was a little bit unclear and could easily be misinterpreted as him saying otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Weigel</title>
		<link>http://www.lietcam.com/blog/2008/04/16/links-for-wednesday/#comment-134727</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Weigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raiding Graphs: not funny, mostly.

Pirates of the Burning Sea: according to the PDF, you have to acquire API keys from http://www.burningsea.com/page/developer - which seems like it might be holding things up. Incidentally, although no one asked my opinion, I'm not a big fan of the API key approach to providing the data... I'd be curious to hear more about their reasoning on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raiding Graphs: not funny, mostly.</p>
<p>Pirates of the Burning Sea: according to the PDF, you have to acquire API keys from <a href="http://www.burningsea.com/page/developer" rel="nofollow">http://www.burningsea.com/page/developer</a> - which seems like it might be holding things up. Incidentally, although no one asked my opinion, I&#8217;m not a big fan of the API key approach to providing the data&#8230; I&#8217;d be curious to hear more about their reasoning on that.</p>
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